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  1. UofT Vs McGill Vs UBC

    In the US, from what I've been told about u of t's placement rates, big law hiring is generally similar in how deep they go into the class (top xth percentile). Interest also seems to be lower in McGill than at u of t for US big law, so the raw numbers might be slightly lower (though apparently we're still somewhere between 5-10 percent of the class going). Either way it's a crapshoot for going to the US. If you want to do that, put in extra time for the last and aim for a t14 - preferably with a scholarship. Lastly I just want to note that the question of better and reputation is so muddy precisely because it's such a wide question. McGill does much better in europe placements than u of t for example, but that's due to the nature of the program and the bilingualism of its students. U of T tends to do better proportionally in the Toronto big law market while McGill does fine, but dominates the Montreal market. The schools are sufficiently different than to even ask the question of better rep is so broad and vague that it's to ask no question at all.
  2. 2017 Associate Salary Bump (Toronto)

    Plebs. /s
  3. To the 1Ls, on the occasion of their first exams

    You will be okay. Work hard, but don't lose perspective on the fact that you were admitted, just like every single one of your peers, for a reason .
  4. Osgoode Housing Options

    I'm not as osgoode so I can't speak to that specifically. But at my school, while admittedly smaller, no-one I know has had that problem. Law school is different than undergrad in that you have the same classes with the same people so I imagine it's less of a risk for the "commuter curse", as I like to call it. For clarity, I live(d) off campus and have had no problems whatsoever with friends.
  5. How many schools are you applying to and why?

    This is all ignoring the more important question, which Diplock alluded to: why does it matter what non-law people think at all? In the context of making yourself feel good, sure that's your prerogative. But in a forum where our answers aren't only to the person asking, but future readers too, don't get all kerfuffled if we explain the reality of how unimportant it is what Sally at the bar thinks of osgoode vs queens.
  6. Osgoode Housing Options

    If you guys can, live downtown given that the subway extension is done. Had I gone to oz my plan was to do that anyway. It'll help keep you out of the Oz bubble, and well, downtown Toronto is nicer than the Oz campus and its neighborhoods.
  7. How many schools are you applying to and why?

    I would have loved to ask how they got into law school at all with that logic.
  8. UofT Vs McGill Vs UBC

    Do you have some beef with McGill or something? Both law schools are excellent schools. For the US big law hiring context, you're better off going to any t14 than either school, all other factors equal, in terms of hiring.
  9. UofT Vs McGill Vs UBC

    If you have more specific questions about McGill's program, or Montreal in general, feel free to PM me
  10. UofT Vs McGill Vs UBC

    Disclaimer I'm a McGill student so I'm biased. Honestly, the bijural part of the program is interesting, but seems to be useful for either: practising private law in Quebec, practising international law in some domain that requires a knowledge of both systems, and scholarship. When it comes to the rest, it really does become a unilingual class. Your 1L year will be all transystemic, not including constitutional law. Second year you'll have property law which attempts to teach the civil and common law systems together, while paying significant attention to aboriginal title and conceptions of property. I'm in it now and it's complex, but interesting, and frustrating. I'll let you know how it goes. The bilingual part of the faculty will definitely give you a leg up on specific government jobs, and certain clerkships (Fed courts, FCOA, supreme court). This doesn't mean you don't need to be a strong candidate. But it's a factor which helps. I have to warn you of two things: One can basically get through the program with a very basic understanding of French. But it'll be painful, and you'll miss out on a lot of opportunities requiring bilingualism (given the school is in Montreal). You really need to buy into the system, work on your bilingualism throughout. This means actually doing the readings in French, and taking French courses. Of course, you don't have to. And you'll get through. But you'll lose out on a massive part of the benefits of this program. This being said, if you do decide to just "get through", all those bilingual advantages McGill grads have for jobs go out the window. No it's not a good idea to lie on your clerkship or job applications about your bilingualism. So the program does offer advantages based on its curriculum. But ultimately it's up to you to make use of them, or not.
  11. Should you go to law school?

    I didn't know you're a woman, theycancallyouhoju!
  12. Boss Placed Me On Probation

    I'm sorry to hear :(. Disclaimer: this isn't legal advice nor should be construed as such. With what providence said I'm thinking, sure I would probably quit too. Maybe. But say you do. Then you don't get severance. Seems.. Exactly the type of situation the government legislated against? I'm probably way off base though.
  13. TWU and the SCC

    Nice. But a tricky thing with that is that, even in effect, it can be argued not to infringe on the BC gov's decision regarding TWU because individual TWU grads would still be able to apply to write the bar (after assessment), which is a point already conceded. But if you can demonstrate that the effect of such a decision is that twu decides not to open a law school at all, then maybe? But how would you even go about proving that?
  14. TWU and the SCC

    Assuming that's true (I don't necessarily disagree, but i'm not going to get into it), you think the law societies are the best party to infuse it with the "proper" values? If values necessarily exist within the legal system, and values change with the wind (the two premises we're working with), is the legislature not in the best position to to infuse the system with such values? So that if the values do change, then democracy can do it's thing and we vote in people who's values better represent ours? That's what, as Jaggers said, the BC legislature did already. What on god's green earth gives the LSUC any sort of jurisdiction over the values of a law school?
  15. TWU and the SCC

    And that justifies bringing in other values to embed? The work should be to - for lack of a better word at 9am - decolonize the legal system of those values, NOT add in values now because "hey, they did it first!".