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  1. How much does it matter where you go to school?

    I had an interview where a senior partner walked in for a networking event, and the first thing he said was "Who here is not from U of T or Osgoode?" Take from that what you will. Interestingly, I've had a lot of opportunities attending one of these schools that my friends in other Ontario and non-Ontario universities do not have. I believe going to law school in the location that you want to practice in, is one of the most important factors. For Toronto, U of T and Osgoode hands-down has an edge. This becomes less clear cut once you leave Toronto.
  2. RC was the bane of my existence. I got more than half the questions in this section incorrect during my LSAT write, and still scored above 160. It sucks because I probably could have otherwise got into U of T law and the T-14 law schools.
  3. Queens Law

    Queen's has traditionally had a reputation for labour/employment, family, and criminal law areas. But, this has certainly changed over the years and the program is now shifting its focus to business law. That said, you can get a quality education anywhere. But, if you're serious about criminal law than a better school would be Osgoode as they have the Innocence Project, Criminal Law Division in CLASP, Criminal Law intensive, Alan Young, Benjamin Berger, and a very diverse criminal law course selection. I think it still holds some weight in labour and employment as Hicks Morley hired 4 out of their 5 summer students from there this year. In terms of family law, I believe you can get exposure and experience in this area at any law school through Pro Bono Canada, course selection, and clinical programs. In terms of class size, it's about 200-210 students now. It has a less diverse student body than schools like Windsor, Ottawa, and Osgoode. It has a good reputation along with Osgoode and Western, ahead of Windsor and Ottawa (though it doesn't really matter where you go so much as how you perform in law school). It's closer to the Ottawa and Montreal legal markets if that is your end goal. The grading scheme is also one of the most generous that I have seen out of all law schools in Canada (along with U of T). Someone posted a chart a few weeks ago to confirm this, but I believe only 1 C and 23 C+ grades were awarded in the entire 1L class. Class averages ranged in the B/B+ range. Now, class averages are in the B range for most law schools, but at schools like Osgoode, there is a policy that 25% of the class get grades in the C to D range. I know many students who have multiple C's on their transcripts just given the nature of the grading scheme. This can be an important consideration for you if you're worried about how you'll perform in law school.
  4. Toronto Articling Recruit 2018-19

    Should we follow up if we did not receive a call from our top choice firm?
  5. I know quite a few residential real estate lawyers. One of them is a close friend of mine. His exact words to me were - "Do everything else, try everything else before you even step foot into the residential real estate market. It's utterly shit. I hate doing it and most other residential real estate lawyers I know hate it too.You can fail at everything else and then come do residential real estate law. But, don't do it if you have not tried anything else before, and don't tell me you went to law school to do residential real estate."
  6. I will also add that a couple of the 1L hires from Osgoode were JD/MBAs.
  7. Vancouver 2018/2019 Articling Recruit

    Wow, never heard of this firm and just looked at their lawyers' profiles. All but two of their associates have clerked. There is a gold medalist. My god and I thought Henein's firm had the most impressive profiles.
  8. intellectual stimulation in law

    At the time, I thought the LSAT was going to be the hardest test it in my life, then I got a reality check after going to law school. I would much prefer to go back to those days plugging away at the logic games and completing logical reasoning stimuli.
  9. 10 reasons not to go to my school.

    Osgoode and U of T have the First Generation Network, not sure about the other law schools. I attend Osgoode and am also a first generation university student.
  10. 10 reasons not to go to my school.

    The ethical lawyer course is only 3 weeks long though and not much work. The evaluation consists of a short 900-word essay (15%), participation (15%), group case study (20%), final paper (50%). The final paper determines your grade as most people get the same marks in the other evaluations. The course is indeed useless and one of my lowest marks in 1L.
  11. intellectual stimulation in law

    I too found contracts, property, and torts more interesting that constitutional and criminal law in law school. However, I do believe they are more intellectually stimulating areas of law (I didn't say interesting per say, but intellectually stimulating).
  12. Undergraduate work

    How do you have a 3.5 cumulative GPA with two failed classes? Are the failed classes still on your transcript, or have they been completely erased? Keep in mind that you are required to submit transcripts from all post-secondary institutions attended.
  13. intellectual stimulation in law

    I think this is an important discussion that doesn't get much noise on this forum. Among law students, and 0Ls, corporate/commercial law, Bay Street, and OCIs, are hyped up so much that most people don't pause for a second to actually consider the work that they will be doing. It really is grunt work for the first few years, and by that time, a lot of people burn out and leave. My friend found it tedious and not what he thought it would be, and decided against continuing there. As for intellectually stimulating areas of law, this is specific to the individual, but in general, I would think constitutional, refugee, criminal, human rights, and tax would be more challenging. Being a litigator is also likely more intellectually stimulating than being a solicitor.
  14. My mistake, thanks for the correction.
  15. I hated the structure of 1L at Osgoode. Ethical lawyering is a useless course taught over 1 week in the Fall term, and two weeks in the Winter term. Contracts, Torts, and Criminal are crammed into one term and our grades are final. Western and U of T offer all full-year courses with fail-safe midterm exams which are a blessing in disguise. OP, law school exams are 100% so technically you can skip every class and still do well. Depending on your undergraduate program, the workload itself may be light, but the learning curve is quite steep. It's hard for most students to wrap their minds around legal cases and analysis. So, figure out a strategy that works for you and don't just listen to what others around you tell you to do.
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