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  1. Is law school fun?

    I felt the same alienation when people talked about their (or really, their parents’) cottages, time shares, vacations, hockey season tickets etc. Seemed like everyone had been to Europe (I know not everyone had but so many people talked about it.) Some people even had boats and horses etc. A few had condos bought for them by their parents and people talked about how their parents were paying their tuition. That was also hard to hear.
  2. High LSAT (173), abysmal gpa (2.0)

    I dunno. U of T has tougher admissions requirements than Brock, as far as I know, so that would generally suggest that it is more competitive to get top grades.
  3. Suits for Women

    Why would you wear those to work? I think that would be weird for an everyday look. That's more of a red carpet thing - celebrities wear them to events but Beyonce and Katy Perry are not talking to judges or senior partners. Just get lash extensions if you really want long lashes - and not too unnaturally long!
  4. High LSAT (173), abysmal gpa (2.0)

    Also, Brock is a "party school." So you might go there expecting easy grades because "if you can walk and talk, you can go to Brock" and get distracted by all the social stuff, whereas you might focus more at U of T because other serious students you meet motivate you. *not to say there aren't smart, serious students at Brock and party animals at U of T too - I'm addressing the stereotypes.
  5. Is law school fun?

    Also, we rarely have the perfect amount of time to do the most stellar job possible on anything. Part of being successful in law school or practice is figuring out how to budget your time so you can do what needs to be done to a reasonable standard. For example, I do both appellate and trial work, so I will have facta due from time to time, and my factum due date may fall during the middle of a trial. So I have to allocate time for both factum writing and trial prep, taking into consideration my kids/personal life and other commitments. I don't have 200 hours to do the most amazing factum the court of appeal has ever seen, which maybe in theory I could produce if given enough time. But if I can find 40-50 hours and be efficient (with my student having done some research), I can produce a very good factum that covers what it needs to, walks the court through the issues in the way I want it to, and puts my client in the best position they can be going into the hearing, and I can also be adequately prepared for the trial. Some lawyers are such perfectionists that they don't want to hand anything in unless it is perfect - I've had this issue with students who have done their memos and addressed what needs to be addressed but don't want to turn them in because they want to go over and over them looking for mistakes. I think a function of having balanced school and kids forever is that I learned a long time ago to take time when I can get it, work fast, and hand in something sufficient on time without worrying about whether it's absolutely perfect. (*I know you can extend a factum due date in certain circumstances, but it has to go in at some point and if I have lengthy back to back trials and then vacation, I may prefer to just keep the original due date.)
  6. Suits for Women

    1) I don't think bare legs with skirts are appropriate in an office/court, and definitely not open shoes that show your painted toes, so yes, nylons. Take your cues from the senior female lawyers around you. If they have bare legs, fine, but I'd be surprised. 2) I don't think you need a slip unless you are wearing a dress of a lighter/thinner fabric under a jacket (which would be a very casual look.) Re: undergarments - a properly fitting and supportive bra in a neutral colour with no straps showing is important. If you are wearing pants, no VPL (visible panty lines) - investigate good thongs. 3) Capri pants? It's a more casual look but for a casual day, if the other lawyers are wearing them, I think they're OK. Wear them with flats or slingbacks - no open-toed shoes - and you get to skip the pantyhose. 4) Common blunders... oh boy. Jackets that are too tight (can't button or strain across the front when buttoned.) Even if you prefer to wear your jackets open, they need to button comfortably. Skirts that are too short and/or tight (see Hegdis' comment.) Clothes that are generally too small (for some reason a lot of students seem to prefer to squeeze into size small rather than just buy medium. Or maybe they gained weight in school and haven't realized or updated their wardrobes.) Tops or dresses that are too low-cut and show the top of your cleavage, which is not appropriate in an office/court. Colours that are inappropriate - you can wear pastels and colours, but in a more conservative setting, you shouldn't, say, wear a hot pink pantsuit head to toe. You can wear a hot pink blouse as an accent, or maybe even a jacket, but the full suit is too much. Dresses that are too casual under jackets - just because there is a jacket on top doesn't mean any dress is ok to wear. A dress shouldn't be clingy, shiny, flimsy etc. Underwear lines showing and see-through clothing. Mismatching blacks (don't wear black together unless it came as an ensemble.) Skin showing between the end of your jacket and your pants (you can't wear low-rise pants unless you have a long fitted jacket that you are sure covers everything even when you raise your hands above your head.) Wearing clothes cut for another body shape - ie. generally, don't wear a sleek, fitted sheath dress if you are an apple shape - try a fit and flare style or something with pleats or more fullness. Wearing an expensive, fashion-forward outfit but with no attention to hair, makeup etc so it looks mismatched. Wearing shoes that aren't comfortable to work in. Wearing dark skinny jeans in place of work pants when it's not an official casual day. Wearing outfits that are too fussy/princessy, like lots of lace at work (a lace shell top is ok, but a pink lace skirt or dress?) Being more edgy than the rest of the office ie. visible tattoos, piercings etc when no one else has those and you haven't proven yourself yet. Messy buns and ponytails at the office/court. Using things that are ok as an accessory/accent but wearing them completely overtly ie. a little punk accent, like leather patches on a jacket, is cute, but leather jacket, skirt and boots? Too much. Give me a minute to think of some more!
  7. Accommodations

    It's not 15 pages because of the time limit. It's 15 pages because the act of cutting 100 pages of notes to 70 pages to 40 pages to 25 pages to 15 pages teaches you the material and organizes it in your head so that you actually know and understand it. You shouldn't need to read a summary even if there is more exam time. If there is more time, a top student could delve more into the fact patterns and do more analysis etc. You wouldn't want to spend time reading and not getting things on paper that can get you points.
  8. Accommodations

    Seconding Jaggers - 100 pages is not a "summary." And you don't make a summary to read it in the exam, or at least I didn't - you don't have that kind of time (unless we get the 6 hour exams proposed!) You make it to help yourself learn the material well enough that you know it as if it were a closed book exam and the summary is just there as a confidence-booster in case you blank on the name of a case or have time at the end to check what you wrote.
  9. Accommodations

    100 pages??????
  10. Accommodations

    OMG, six hours? As long as there's two bathroom breaks....
  11. What are examples of "strong" ECs?

    Better yet, just plan to be an interesting and engaged person and find things you like to do outside the classroom starting as early as possible, because it benefits your life as a whole regardless of what career you pursue. People don’t go into elite sports because they want to go to law school - they start very young and they love the challenge. The most impressive ECs aren’t planned for law school admissions whether in first year or fourth year.
  12. U of T vs Osgoode - Tax Law /CPA related question

    They can’t hire their kid at their firm but they can ask their buddy at their old firm to and hire the buddy’s kid in return. I saw that happen a bit in law school.
  13. What are examples of "strong" ECs?

    And if you’re not already good at / passionate about / interested in them, scrambling to do them in your last year of undergrad doesn’t show that commitment and passion.
  14. Is law school fun?

    My problems aren’t tax related. Prison sounds good to me about now.
  15. Is law school fun?

    Why would they need to improve if they're already top of the game? If they were MVP in the NCAA championship and are a great leader, great athlete, great everything why would I prefer someone who is under performing?
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