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  1. I use the ignore feature. I use it sparingly, and not just because someone disagrees with me. It's more when someone posts dozens of times over the span of a few days and I'd like to read the site without watching the same dead horse being unceremoniously beaten across the all activity page. I agree that it's better to read dissenting views. But when they've repeatedly made their views known on a topic, it's nice to have a break from those views without leaving the site altogether. Also, you typically see the person's views quoted in other posters' responses. And I usually end up reading their posts anyway. But when someone goes on an opinion rampage, I like having the freedom to read or not.
  2. Will I ever go to law school ? (2.12)

    Some schools say they will just take your last two years. So the trend might not matter - just LSAT and L2 alone for certain schools. But if you weren't doing that well in the last couple of years, then you might want to consider whether it's worthwhile to continue sinking time and money into undergraduate courses. Have you been getting As (or at least mostly Bs)? If not, what's going to be different? Unless your circumstances, work ethic, study skills, or whatever has been holding you back has changed, the grades will probably stay roughly the same. Do as you like. But if I were you, then those are the questions I'd be asking myself right now. I know people who have completely turned around their academic performance. But there was usually a reason (e.g., medical issues were resolved, they hadn't been studying and then started studying much harder, or they took a long break from school to work and returned with a new attitude).
  3. Is law school fun?

    It's true. I'm often sleepy.
  4. What are examples of "strong" ECs?

    I agree that people should do ECs that they enjoy, and not the things that they think will look good on resumes and applications. I might note that skill-building activities aren't necessarily bad. If you're particularly worried about public speaking in law school / law, then maybe consider trying debate club or Toastmasters. If you're concerned about your writing, I don't know, maybe try writing for a student paper or something. That's not to say that future law students need to do these kinds of things. And they shouldn't do them to strengthen their applications. But if you know you're going to law school and want to work on some skills that might help down the line, then that could be a good idea.
  5. Is law school fun?

    I don't have very good grades and I don't have an articling position. So you'd think I'd be sympathetic to your argument. But I'm not. I don't feel like the system failed me. I recognize that my grades make me a less competitive applicant, and while I believe that grades are an imperfect metric of my ability, I don't discount their value altogether. Employers don't have a lot else to go on. And my law school performance did reveal that I'm below average in some areas (speed, memorization). That does matter to employers, and to me, there's nothing unfair about that. Providence also noted that grades are not the only consideration. In my experience, that's also been true so far. I've had plenty of employers who were willing to overlook some bad grades, on account of my other experience and whether they thought I'd be a good fit. Those didn't end up working out for some reason or another. But the point is that I don't really see the merit of your argument here. I agree that the hiring process isn't perfect. I agree that we're charged a lot of tuition (too much, in my opinion, but I also freely agreed to pay it). But I don't really see the point of blaming the system, because I don't even have a proposal for how to do it better. Lots of lawyers will meet to talk with students. Lots of jobs are being posted, both in the formal recruit, and outside it. I can't speak for everyone, but I feel like I'm being given as fair an opportunity to find employment as I have in any other market. I don't think that my unemployment is an indictment of the system. I think it's the natural consequence of being a less competitive candidate in a tough job market.
  6. Is law school fun?

    For smaller firms, I don't think it's a "game." I think it's about getting a return on investment. Even if you work your ass off, you're gonna be pretty new in articling. You could very well cost a firm/SP money during that year. But if you stick around as a first, second, or third year associate, then I assume you'll work better, you'll work faster, and you might bring in clients. You'd probably make some money for them, so if they like you, they might want you to stay. Some of the smaller places I've spoken with have been pretty candid: they'd like to help me now, but they're concerned that I'm a flight risk. And when I've had no connection with the location, that's been kinda hard to disagree with. I'm assuming that the same thing applies for area of practice. If you just wander into a firm that only does real estate, and you've got no demonstrable interest in real estate, then they might reasonably wonder if it's worth training you to do real estate transactions. I'm also not advocating lying to them. Sometimes fit actually matters for both parties. I've had coffee with lawyers, where I've talked about my interests and they've talked about their practice. We've had lovely conversations. Sometimes those conversations end with us amicably parting, safe in the knowledge that it's in everyone's best interests for me never to work there.
  7. Is law school fun?

    I've never really enjoyed the classes or academic side that much. A lot of that's on me -- I've studied hard, but haven't really engaged with the material. I just don't find the material to be interesting in the abstract. And I'm not good at memorizing or doing timed hypos. So that part hasn't been fun for me. I have really enjoyed other parts though. I've gotten involved in clinics and had some other great extra-curricular experiences (both law and non-law related). I really like working on cases. I've also met some of my closest friends here. I really can't complain too much. Regarding the expectations part, I agree with hoju: I've complained plenty. But I'm also conscious that many of my friends did graduate programs, where there was no formal recruit process. They had to find jobs themselves (as in actually search for them and get hired). Okay, so maybe their tuition was lower. But the shock of some law students over a temporary period of unemployment / underemployment during summers and after graduation is a bit much. Being unemployed / underemployed after finishing your education is a relatively normal phenomenon (note: this is coming from someone who doesn't have articles, yet. So I like to think I'm allowed to lecture people, if only as a consolation prize).
  8. Billable Hours v Actual Hours

    I can't speak for other students. But because almost everything I do will be new to me, I imagine I won't be very efficient. I'd imagine a lot of hours would have to be written down for a while, as I'd be doing research that more senior people wouldn't need to do. Or I'd have to redo work after it was returned by the lawyer with changes. If I couldn't afford to go without for a while, I'd be pretty hesitant too. Also, maybe you already know based upon the nature of the firm's practice, but I'd probably want to know about their billing structures. Is it flat fees or retainers that get billed pretty regularly? Contingency? I'd want to make sure that I'd be getting any of those fee splits in time to pay rent.
  9. How can I (psychologically) beat the LSAT?

    The bolded would make me more stressed, not less. I like variety and breaks, otherwise I burnout. But to each their own. Deep breaths are good, though. So is meditation. I use the headspace app and like it.
  10. "University Magazine" Law School Rankings

    I blame your polar bears. That's where this "Windsor is top-five thing" started.
  11. A law school to match my personality

    Every post in this thread is excellent. My day is the most made.
  12. Paid (Non-Law) vs Unpaid (Law)

    "Hi. Mr. J- Yes. I read it, but- Yes. Right, but- Right. No, see, laws are jurisdictional, they're different in different places. That's a California case and we're in Nova Scotia, where the courts have- No. Right. Okay, yes. I'll see if I can work it into the pre-trial brief. [lies] Yes, the cat. We covered that I think. Alright, you too. Talk soon, bye." [puts phone down. deep breath]
  13. Ask a 1L at DAL (2018)

    I don't know if the index is necessarily official and determinative. And I'm not sure if competitive numbers necessarily translate automatic acceptance (although they usually seem to). Not trying to worry you. Just a caution about relying on the index score as a predictor. People still get accepted after March. I don't know. Try calling?
  14. Paid (Non-Law) vs Unpaid (Law)

    Not practicing yet, but I couldn't agree more with the bolded part. The ability to assess one's skills and knowledge on case-by-case basis seems like the foundation for competence in practice. Lawyers should be able to assess what they need to know, what they actually know, what they must do to learn, and whether those steps can be taken in a reasonable time given their circumstances. Not to sound arrogant, but I think I've done relatively well in the limited clinical / extracurricular settings I've been in so far. However, my limited successes haven't been caused by transferable skills from 0L or because legal research " isn’t that intellectually challenging of a process." It's because I've been rigorous in ensuring that I get all the help I need on my files. If I don't know where to get support for a case, I'll decline the work. I'd like to think I view my work with sufficient seriousness, that I don't assume that someone could learn it just by hovering in the background. Even if I'm being supervised, I take responsibility for every memo, brief, and letter etc that leaves my desk. When I hear law students / prospective law students discussing legal work with the kind of cavalier attitude above, I'm surprised that anyone is willing to trust 2Ls and articling students with their files.