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  1. I think it carries over, but you have to be an Ontario lawyer to appear in Ontario courts. Certainly having litigation experience in the US would be valuable in Canada, but you have to get called in Canada first - pain in the ass to do if you don't have a Canadian degree.
  2. Choices but strongly considering UofT

    $30,000K is minor? To be so lucky.... I can't speak for you, but having an extra $300 in your pocket at the end of each month FOR A DECADE is not immaterial.
  3. you know what, I mis-read your question. Yes, people who practice American law in Canadian branches of US firms don't have to pass the NCA because they don't have to be called in Canada - they do have to pass the NY bar). They're "foreign legal consultants" who can operate in Ontario on that basis. But, I note that there are only a few firms who have a purely American presence in Canada, their footprints are small and, I think if you check, you'll find they draw heavily from Canadian law schools (no doubt because those are the people who want to work in canada). I wouldn't want to start my career in that venue with a US degree. If things didn't work out, it would be a pain in the ass to find work elsewhere in Canada and one suspects that the toronto office of a big US firm doesn't scream "up and comer" to other US employers.
  4. UofT Vs McGill Vs UBC

    So, if I understand your point, among the population of people who know shit all about law schools and who are unlikely to be employers of recently hired graduates, McGill has a great reputation. Well, that's good to know, but rather reinforces the point that McGill's reputation is over-rated. I mean, I never understood why people put any weight on school reputation among the general population - the general population thinks Osgoode Hall is at UofT, and wonders why York doesn't have a law school. I mean, McGill's reputation is great if what you're looking for when you pull into Billie-Bob and Son's Drive-In BBQ in Podunk Arkansas is for Billie-Bob to look at your McGill bumper sticker and say: "I say, Boy, did you ma-tri-cu-late at McGill? That that there college in Canada where Sir Enerst Rutherford did his nobel-prize winning work on atoms. You sure must be a smart one."
  5. U of T / Osgoode

    Other than being cheaper? By sheer size, if nothing else, it probably has a deeper pool of commie law (e.g., so-called "social justice" law) courses. But it's not as if UofT doesn't have a nice selection of such courses. How serious are you about staying and working in Toronto? Because while salaries (or, more commonly, incomes) in "social justice" practice areas (and I think you need to think about what that means to you - because no one actually practices "social justice" law, they practice criminal, or labour or immigration, etc.) are not known to be high anywhere, I'd imagine they're lower in, say, Halifax then Toronto. You don't want to be paying Toronto tuition if you're going to be earning halifax income. If you're going to stay out east, go to Dal (which has a decent enough profile in Toronto tostill gives you the option to come west if you really want).
  6. Environmental law at Osgoode vs. U of T

    Ignore "prestige" - it what people look at when they know nothing else about the law schools in question. Lawyers, i.e., future employers, aren't going to be impressed by that. Both Osgoode and UofT are strong schools (though UofT benefits from not being located beyond the artic circle at the North York/Vaughn border).
  7. More likely people who practicedin the Us (or UK) then joined Canadian firms and get called in Canada. Often they’re people who went to law school in Canada before schlepping off abroad, so they don’t worry about the NCA and can get a waiver of articles based on their experience. Generally the sort of people who followed that career path and stuck around in NY or London for 5 years have something going for them and bring valuable work experience and contacts
  8. UofT Vs McGill Vs UBC

    Really depend where you want to work and what you think you want to do. If you want to work in Vancouver, go to UBC, if you want to work in Toronto, I’d say it’s a toss up between McGill and UofT (if you want want to work in Montreal, you wouldn’t be asking the question). Both are good schools, both have good reputations in the Ontario market (though I’m with Constant that the extent of McGill’s reputation globally is often over-stated) Other posters are probably right that if you have ambitions with the federal G - and you apparently do - the bilingual aspect of McGill is worth a lot. On the other hand, I would worry that, if you don’t end up working at a place with a formal hiring process (biglaw, government) it’ll be more difficult for you to find jobs in Ontario - not that people wouldn’t want to employ you, it’s just you’re not here. That’s not insurmountable, it just means extra work for you. On the other hand, coming out with $100k less in student loans makes that a lot easier. Where do you want to live? Both Toronto and Montreal are great cities. I’m not sure I’d want to make a career in Montreal, but as a place to live for three years when you’re young, you could do worse.
  9. Should you go to law school?

    Work long hours in biglaw for a while, then cruise into the in-house lifestyle.
  10. Environmental law at Osgoode vs. U of T

    I'd probably say it doesn't make much of a difference. Osgoode might offer more courses in the area, just by virtue of its size - check the course calendar. But at the end of the day, both schools can give you exposure to any but the most niche area of law. My usual advice - treat them as being more or less the same (they are) and ask how much the extra cost of UofT (net of any aid at both schools) is offset by the commute and locale of Osgoode (knowing that they're supposed to have a subway up there next year).
  11. Handling students

    I bet if you spoke to them in Swahili, they would nod and bob their heads in much the same manner.
  12. Handling students

    Research is always a nice intro into a subject. If you're drafting a memo or a factum, maybe ask them to research a discrete point and when they come back with an answer that sounds plausible, ask them prepare a rider on that point for the memo or the factum. It means you can give them something manageable, at their level, and discrete enough that if they fuck it up, you can redo it readily enough. Simple solicitor work, like drafting resolutions, acknowledgements and receipts, simple promissory notes, subscription agreements, etc. They'll probably fuck it up, but it's something you (or a clerk) can fix (or redo) quickly as needed. And it's useful learning - gets them to see how all the pieces in the transaction fit together, how to use recitals to tell a story about what is going on, how to make sure everything is recorded properly.
  13. Investing LOC

    You can eat tulips.
  14. Should you go to law school?

    That's the thing, isn't it. The notion that working long hours in law is the sole domain of the biglaw lawyers is rather mistaken.
  15. Investing LOC

    Fiat currency really isn’t “backed” by anything. I suppose you can pay your taxes with it, but other than that it’s just pretty pieces of plastic (at least in Canada). What distinguishes it from bitcoin is that fiat money are pretty pieces of plastic that Canadians use as their unit of account and are more or less universally willing to accept as a medium of exchange. That could happen with bitcoin - though not when it’s double in value every month (implying that prices, in bitcoin terms, should be plummeting)- it could happen with playing cards or clam shells, but I would’t be heading off to the beach to stock up just yet.