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  1. How much

    What jurisdiction? What kind of midsize? Boutique? What do you mean by possibilities of growing? You or the firm? Negotiating a salary at what level? Articles? 1st year associate? Mid level?
  2. Multiple employment offers

    /thread. What do you folks wanna argue about next?
  3. Multiple employment offers

    Just to chime in again, Any chance you know what the salary progression is at the 70k firm? Do you convert to eat what you kill at some point, etc? I'm not really sure how PI works. And nobody here is ripping on 70k. You have multiple offers and the minimum if you play your cards right is 70k. Life is good. 70k in GTA is pretty solid (especially if you commute!)
  4. Multiple employment offers

    If you are happy with the 70k, I don't see a harm in using it to leverage against firm A for a higher salary or at the very minimum and offer. Worst case scenario you're stuck with a salary you like.
  5. How many people actually believe this though? I didn't really encounter anybody in law school who was disillusioned by the practice of law. Most realized, at the very least, that there aren't a whole lot of completely general practitioners out there (at least in bigger shops). And most of us realized that it won't be a lifetime of wealth, but a first year associate salary in an off-bay market will basically put you at the medium income for families in Canada. Second year salary puts you in top 10% of Canada (roughly). Having said that, I have to agree that most don't understand the day to day monotony. Sometimes you wanna hear hooves and it's a zebra. The majority of the time it's a horse. Or...like...a turtle or something more boring.
  6. Is it a boutique? And maybe they are "rebranding" in the recruitment circuit and looking to attract a certain kind of talent. That being said, 25k over city average is crazy.
  7. Do lawyers ever have really "grand" offices?

    Sadly just about all windows block the beneficial UVs to convert that sweet sweet vitamin D.
  8. Partner Compensation in Canada vs US?

    I think that's the joke.
  9. Well, yes and no. There are fewer spots than in, say, private practice. But there are fewer people who want to be Crown prosecutors. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a great job (it is. And with great benefits too!) but not everybody wants to do criminal law, and not everybody who wants to do crim wants prosecution.
  10. "The Crown" normally refers to working for the government. Often times it's shorthand for working for the provincial prosecution.
  11. Ask a 1L 2018

    yeah, it's like the profs in the US try to emulate the movie "The Paper Chase" as much as possible. Some profs can be kinda socratic, but most just give a lecture and open the floor to questions rarely singling people out. Maybe other alumni had different experiences but none of my profs were like that in 1L.
  12. Bay Street Bonuses

    Because this forum is often used as a source of information for people who can't or don't know how to find answers to their questions elsewhere. If you spread information, it should be done responsibly. And again, I disagree. My observation is that some of the remaining eat-what-you-kill full service firms are moving towards lock-step. I even know of a crim firm that has moved to salary lately.
  13. Bay Street Bonuses

    And I can tell you for a fact that this isn't the case at my firm.
  14. Bay Street Bonuses

    Do they get a share or don't they? How is this misleading? It's not like you quoted someone who said "Partners get a share of the profits. That share is always large."
  15. Ask a 1L 2018

    A couple notes: Very few profs will cold call you. Especially in 1L. At U of A CANs = Condensed annotated notes = outlines. Some recommendations: "Briefing cases is a waste of time and you should use a CAN" - this is what most upper years will tell you. The problem with this advice is that they look back on their 1L experience through a lens of someone that gradually learned how to use a CAN. You should learn how to brief a case initially because it will help you extract the important things from lectures and the LSA CANs and will allow you to build more effective CANs. Having said that, once you get the hang of using outlines/CANs, don't waste your time reading and briefing cases. It's a time sink. Normally people ditch the reading thing after midterms in December. Building your own CAN is up to you. I tend to just get one from an upper year or he LSA site and add notes to it. I always waited until the last week of school but this is generally a bad idea. Sometimes it's best to wait until the end of a module/topic when all the cases come together and start making sense and you see how they work together, but waiting until the end of the semester/when you've learned all the topics isn't all that effective. DO PRACTICE EXAMS - Law exams are weird and sometimes frustrating. Do practice exams and questions throughout the semester. Bring them to your prof and see if they will give you advice or critique your answer. Which kinda combines with my next point... NOT ALL PROFS ARE THE SAME. Find out what your prof looks for on an exam. Bullet point? CAN dump? Writing for particular audience? Wants you to rely on common sense? Wants a very academic response? The only way you find this out is by talking to the profs themselves (maybe have them look over a practice exam you've attempted) or talk to upper years. Law school isn't difficult enough to warrant giving up free time before 1L. Enjoy your summer and I almost guarantee you will enjoy your time in law school. It can be a lot of fun. And when it isn't fun, it can be really cathartic talking to fellow students about how shitty it is.