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  1. Ask a 1L student

    There's a committee of students (run by the Western Law student government) that puts together a whole slate of law merch that Western Law students can purchase. However, if I recall correctly that doesn't normally happen until the spring.
  2. TWU and the SCC

    Seeing as McLachlin CJC is on the panel and is retiring in two weeks, does anyone know what happens? I'm guessing that she only retires from hearing new cases on the 15th, but continues writing and/or concurring with the decisions already heard? Or does she and the rest of the bench have to crank out a decision before Dec 15th in order for her to be a part of it? Though I have not read the factums and only saw some of the livestream, I'm betting that TWU will lose (or at least that the majority of the Court thinks they should lose), but whether the Court can get there in a legally satisfying way or we end up with another Hutterian Brethren is another question. Alternatively, I think the Court decides against LSBC/LSUC purely on admin law grounds (fettering of discretion by LSBC, failure to properly consider balancing of rights by LSUC) but leaves the door open for LSBC and LSUC to simply re-do their decisions to not accredit TWU, this time in a way that conforms to admin law (assuming the Court finds the previous decisions didn't). I have to admit, I'm going to be sad when this case is over. It's one of the more interesting fact patterns I could imagine (for a constitutional law fan): law school, multiple law societies (and the politics that comes with them in terms of Benchers deliberations, voting, and referenda), perhaps indirect applicability of the Charter to a private university, directly clashing Charter rights/values (and two of the most relevant rights/values in society right now: religion vs. sexuality), and an on-point SCC precedent to boot.
  3. Go ahead and defend in September, you won't have any problem. Most (if not all) professors will be spoon-feeding you the materials for the first month. While there will be readings, you either a) will have no problem getting them done and finding 2 hours/week to prepare for your defense, or b) can put them off until later, which has the advantage of you understanding how to read the materials better (this is something you get better and better at as the year goes on). The only thing worth any marks during that time is the infamous 5% case brief (infamous because 1Ls freak out about it since it's the first assignment of law school, but everyone later laughs about how they freaked out about an assignment that had no impact on their final grade). Edit: I will add the caveat that I'm not an upper year. I've recently graduated, so there's always chance that something has changed, though I have no doubt that September of 1L is still as light a workload as you'll have in law school.
  4. Fox Scholarship

    Hate to bump this but...still no acknowledgment of application on my part. I'm curious if anyone has received one?
  5. Fox Scholarship

    Has anyone that applied this cycle received a confirmation of their application? The website says that "all will be acknowledged" (in reference to the applications) but I have received radio silence so far (granted, it's only been a couple of business days). Applications through the post just make me nervous...
  6. Bar Exam - Toronto vs. London/Other smaller city

    Obviously the test is the same, but my experience (and the experience of people I've talked to) is that writing in Toronto is a bit of a madhouse whereas writing in London is much more relaxed. Lines are smaller (more time during breaks), staff are friendlier, no need to worry about parking or traffic. I'd actually highly recommend it if you don't otherwise have a compelling reason to choose one over the other. Maybe study in Toronto, write in London?
  7. Fourth-year Bay Street Litigation Associate - AMA

    Would you mind expanding on this? I've never understood what the selling-point is for lateraling. The Bay St firms have generally the same starting pay, and they all seem to increase in lock-step at the same rate, so (in my mind) that must mean either: 1) They're doing it for money - but if money is the selling point for lateraling then they must be offering that associate more than what he/she is currently making, and since the the firms' lock-step pay is approximately the same, the salary offered must be above and beyond the 'normal' rate (i.e. the 3rd year associate who laterals into a firm is making more than the other 3rd year associates at that firm). OR 2) They're doing it because their chances of partnership are better at the second firm - but in that case, how does a 3rd year associate already know their chances aren't great at their current firm, and further, how in the world would they expect to have a better shot at partnership with a firm they've never worked at? If the answer is "the second firm tells them," why would the second firm do that for a lawyer who has never worked for them?
  8. Ask a 1L student

    Congrats on the offers. Turning over every stone is definitely not a bad idea In regards to OCI recruitment process, it won't make any difference on job prospects for two reasons: - First, as you referenced, firms are aware of differing grading schemes (or so I've been told). - Second and more importantly, your marks are only really relevant in comparison to the classmates from your school. For example, if X firm has 20 interview slots at Western, they'll (obviously) only fill those slots with the 20 "best" (in their determination) students from Western. Same for every other school. So your marks compared to the marks of students at other schools won't matter for getting an OCI. After that, it's in-firm interviews, where marks are no longer relevant (again, so I've been told) unless, perhaps, you're at the top of your class, but again that would be determined per school. As evidence, you'd really only have to the Ultra Vires student recruitment numbers, which show the same % of Western and Queens students landing jobs through the OCI process (though that has changed now that Queens has increased its class size, causing its % to drop a few points, though the actual number of students is the same). Hope that helps!
  9. Ask a 1L student

    As stated, the documents are available to law students but not public. However, if you want to read about how the grade distributions are calculated, check here: http://law.uwo.ca/current_students/student_services/academic_policies_and_procedures.html#evaluation Sort of off-topic, but it's actually interesting that Queens has B+ curve 1L courses, and even the B curve courses are very high (example: class of 46 students, only 3 are below a B, yet the class is still deemed a B curve).
  10. 1L Grades Disappointment

    You're right to think that your marks will not be helping you. The magic number for OCIs is generally a B+ average (though B averages still score some interviews). From here you should do two things (note that it's really easy to talk about doing these two things, but it's hard to actually do them, so make sure you actually do them): 1) Do OCIs. OCIs are only impossible if you don't apply. Though landing interviews might be unlikely, it will give you important practice refining your cover letters and resume. Reach out to upper years for help reviewing and refining your cover letters and resume. 2) Figure out what went wrong. Get your exams back, review them, and sit down with each Professor to ask where you can improve. 2L is a clean slate, and you can demonstrate that 1L was more of a fluke than a representation of your legal skills (insofar as marks can even demonstrate that) if you double-down in 2L. Based on your courses I'm guessing you go to Western, in which case I suggest you work particularly hard in Fall of 2L to get great marks and then apply for the ISLIP international internships that Western offers since those will offer a great 2L summer job in the likely event that you strike out in OCIs.
  11. Is there a particular field (or fields) of law you're interested in? If so that would be useful, it would be easier to provide you with the information that will be most relevant to you. I'll hold off on going very deep until then, only because there's a million different things that I or another poster could talk about and who knows if any of it would actually be what you're looking for. First thing, check out the curriculum streams on the Western Law website. They'll give you a bunch of information that can help you start your search. For example, if you're interested in criminal law, go to the crim curriculum stream, look at what is listed, and then look up those things on the Western Law website or on this forum. The one thing I will say is that I think the "pretty much every Canadian law school gives a stellar legal education" is always given as an answer because the "beyond the basics" stuff often ends up having little impact on a student because there's simply SO many things to get involved with and do at law school that you inevitably cannot do it all (while still maintaining decent grades). There are several things that I came specifically to Western Law for, but in the end I didn't do them because: a) my interest in the field of law changed, b) I didn't have enough time to do it, or c) I learned of something else (or something new was created) that I wanted to do instead. Another general comment is that Community Legal Services, the legal clinic at Western, combines many different areas of law (the website lists a bunch of them), and you can essentially guarantee participating as a caseworker by simply enrolling in the class. Having one central clinic only helps in exposing you to many different fields of law, which hopefully helps you find the field you enjoy.
  12. Queen’s vs Western vs Osgoode for Business Law

    Yeah, that's actually a really good point, I hadn't considered the question in that way. I'm a sucker for Toronto as a city, though I think people (generally) would have a more enjoyable law school experience in Kingston or London.
  13. Rate your school's gym!

    Got to give a shout-out to the Western gym as well. It's incredible (that pool is pretttty!) Plus, it's so close to the law building that you'll feel guilty every day for re-organizing (again) the colour-coding of your summaries instead of going to the gym. So that's nice.
  14. Anyone have experience with the combined JD/BA program?

    I've provided my thoughts in bold. Disclaimer that these are only my thoughts, I have no conclusive or insider info about these things, but hopefully it helps a little. The joint programs are a great way to save time and money (though really think about whether you actually want to rush into the working world).
  15. It's funny, every time I read a chances thread (which is a lot right now, given all the study procrastination) I always think of the rule so many Professors say: the answer to any question is "it depends". Your CGPA is good. Your L2 is great. Your MA helps (I think Western is giving greater weight to having a graduate degree these days). Your LSAT is below-par (and I think it poses a substantial issue not because it suggests you aren't capable - your L2 clearly shows you are - but, fair or not, because it would drag down a school's LSAT entrance average, though in contrast you'll bring up a school's L2 entrance average). You definitely have a shot, but you already knew that. If I had to put money on it (which I suppose is what these threads are really asking) I would say yes, you'll get a late offer. In the mean time, you've got a good offer already, so you're in a good spot to relax

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