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  1. First term classes aren't graded on attendance, except for ELGC. If you can provide a good reason, you might be able to work around this. Don't simply email the prof. Call student services and explain your situation and they may help you explore accommodation possibilities. I'm not certain this would be helpful for you anyway, but I'd guess your success here would be on a case-by-case situation based on whether or not the professor has finalized the details of the assignment yet. At Oz, there are very few if any 1L assignments (save for ELGC). Non-issue. In a worst-case scenario you should be able to find a used one from students taking the course in prior years. Fine the used book facebook group or go to the legal and lit webpage's used textbook link. No idea! Depends where you're at. Generally, you may be fine. The first 3 weeks are really quite introductory. The major issue you need to overcome is getting accommodations for ELGC, which has a ~1000 word paper due sometime in the first few weeks. You'll miss quite a bit of orientation (both social and academic). But you won't drown if, while taking care of your relative, you can keep up with readings. It may be harder for you, though; since you'll lack a lot of social connections made through orientation, you'll have to work to find people who can and are willing to help you get over this hump. Good luck!
  2. Awards

    Emails have indeed gone out for the discretionary awards.
  3. Barrister / Solicitor Exams - Dates

    The barrister exam has been the first tuesday of June for the past three years. I doubt there would be a fluctuation next year (though it is not impossible) which means you will be writing on June 5th in 2018. If you plan ahead and do your reading/studying knowing well in advance your trip will interrupt your flow, you can probably do the wedding without issue. If you're back with a week to spare to get back into it, you'll be fine. Obviously, the cost of going on the trip means you'll have to be pretty diligent in preparing so you don't spend your friends wedding biting your nails off. But there are people who pass the exam having full-time jobs. On the other hand, if the travel plans have you coming back at 11pm on June 4th, then you'll probably want to make different accommodations.
  4. Ask a 1L - 2017 Edition

    Just to emphasize at the outset: your input is appreciated, and it is always good to have a balance of opinions. It sounds (as you noted above) that you didn't attend either event, which is fine. That said, nobody on this thread--or any others that I've read on this forum prior--has misrepresented welcome day or O-week as mandatory; neither is it encouraged to any significant extend beyond what I think is fine advice: these are good opportunities to icebreak and socialize prior to school. Some people may not be able to or want to participate, and that's fine. I don't think anybody needs to chill--what you've read is merely the advice of those people who did make the decision to go to these events and shared their experience.
  5. Advice for future law student!

    Sad, drab, colourless lives you must lead. "All food is an abomination. What's wrong with just bread and broth for every meal? Anything more than this is a cry for attention."
  6. Advice for future law student!

    I had at least six different colours of highlighters (what is even the point of purple, its too dark to read) and did reasonably well. I'd absolutely second (third at this point?) the advice about typing speed if that happens to be a weakness - Ratatype is a great resource. Not because quantity of words correlates with better grades--in most cases, verbosity is not a virtue for lawyers. But being a fast typist is undoubtedly a convenient tool for law school exams, transcribing lectures, making summaries. Everyone goes on about how much reading you do in law school, but there's a heck of a lot of typing to do as well.
  7. Advice for future law student!

    Many on this board typically advise against doing any pre-law school work. This is relatively sound advice for most people: chill out and enjoy the time you have before school. Spend it with friends and family, and relax to maximize your stamina once readings begin. Getting your non-school affairs in order as Hegdis notes right above (finances, health, maybe taking your resume out of cold storage and updating it) should be your top priority. That said, I was like you and wanted a head start. I did more work than I needed to before school. While some of it was not worthwhile, some of it totally was. My experience: Don't: read cases or textbooks; Do: check out wikipedia pages on some of the popular/leading cases in the core subjects. Some of the fact scenarios are fascinating, you'll find them easy to digest and understand the rationale behind some common law principles. I found the major torts cases incredibly fun to read summaries of, and wound up going through my whole reading list before class started. I had no understanding of the law still, but I knew the cases, and that familiarity proved to be beneficial in both understanding the course, and accelerating my reading speed. Don't: try and brief before school; Do: look into some resources on improving your legal writing--Strunk and White, "Elements of Style" for example--an essential skill for any law student. There was a great thread here on that very subject recently, if you can find it. Don't: bother with Getting to Maybe (a popular recommendation about how to write law school exams, but I think an inefficient use of spare reading time until you've actually written one yourself. I'd save it for your winter break in 1L if you must); Do: try and read exclusively for pleasure, because once classes start, the opportunity to do that departs for quite awhile. One more bonus Do: check out your law school's extra-curricular and clinical options ahead of time, and think about what might appeal to you. You'll learn a lot during your first week/orientation, but there's no harm in coming into it with questions. You're a mature student, so it is reasonable to presume you'll have a better sense of what interests you and what areas of law you may gravitate towards, and there's no harm in beginning to think about what you want to do with your time as a student.
  8. Trial Advocacy in second or third year?

    I doubt there is any significant benefit or drawback relating to which year you take any course (except in the case of pre-requisites). Yes, it may be helpful to have evidence or crimpro, but that goes for pretty much every law school class since different areas of law frequently intersect. An easy rule to apply to Oz course selection is to prioritize the classes you want to take the most at your first opportunity to take them, not your last. Scheduling issues arise all the time, either because you take on a clinic, intensive, or other obligation that conflicts, or there's an administrative change to the course's typical term from fall to winter or vice versa. Or a professor is substituted or goes on sabbatical. Don't wait to take something you're interested in unless there's a very good reason to do so.
  9. Ask a 1L - 2017 Edition

    Very true. Don't do anything for resume padding--it is patent to the genuinely enthusiastic students when you do this, and it really doesn't serve you well in the long run either: not only will you have wasted time on non-interests, but you've also made a rather poor impression on your colleagues. That said, I still would be careful dissuading 1Ls from taking opportunities to discover their legal interests. Do be a tourist; don't be a phony. This can be a fine line, and hard to draw. You don't have to do everything, and in fact it will be obvious that you can't do everything. But you should note there are four classes of things that will come at you right away: Purely academic/legal work (readings, assignments, moots, clinics and intensives). Some mandatory, some optional. Do as much of this as you are capable--this is the reason you're in law school! Extracurriculars with responsibilities (journals, blogs, student government/leadership). None of these are mandatory, but you should only sign up for those to which you can give 100% of your attention. Osgoode-affiliated social organizations (sports teams, cultural and legal interest based, and other like-minded clubs affiliated with the student community). You can sign up for as many of these as you like, and if it becomes a burden, leaving is (depending on the organization, usually) as easy as not showing up anymore. It costs you nothing but spam to get on a mailing list. Purely social activities (eg. pub night). No obligation whatsoever to participate. You should try not to be a complete social ghost, but at the same time, you should try not to feel pressured into attending any/all of these. Prioritize from the top down, and you'll be fine. You should try and make time for all four, but if you start feeling pressure, make schedule cuts from the bottom up. In any event, my advice would be indeed to start, on "day one", to be at a minimum aware of everything. Ensure you priorities your studies, but don't let application deadlines get past you. And note that it'll be easier to get involved in social activities earlier in the term than later.
  10. Ask a 1L - 2017 Edition

    1. Use your upper year friends as resources for individual courses: I couldn't really give you any solid tips on how to prepare for profs--you don't even know who you have yet. But once you do, and when you start meeting people during orientation week, you'll find that upper years are more than willing to give you tips and summaries. 2. Get involved: Osgoode's best feature (not having attending other schools, mind you, but speaking to law students from other schools across Canada) is its robust assortment of activities and organizations. Do not merely go to class, then go home, with nothing in between. Take every opportunity to: join a student club or organization; participate in a moot, negotiation or drafting competition; volunteer for mentorship and counseling programs; join student government; and apply for whatever intensives and clinics appeal to you. Don't waste three years of tuition by not taking advantage of all the things your tuition goes toward. But also, getting involved will help build a network of people you can rely on, collaborate with, and seek advice from. 3. BYOC: The Coffee from the cafe in Ignat Kaneff (your Osgoode building) sucks and is overpriced. Elsewhere, there's Tim Horton's and Starbucks (and perhaps a Timothy's around?). I wouldn't pay more than a dollar for any of that swill (not because I'm picky, but because its farcical how much regular ol' brewed coffee costs these days). Whether living on or off campus, I'd brew at home. In a worst case scenario the best value is Tim's. Don't buy from the Cafe unless you hate coffee.
  11. Clerkships 2017-2018

    No such thing. It is reasonable to think in a competition process that better grades are to your advantage and yours are patently appropriate in any event. If you had straight Cs, I might suggest saving the postage on an SCC application. Otherwise, apply to the positions for which you'd like to work.
  12. Ontario Bar Exam Prep - June 2017

    Like using summaries for law school exams, you can't and won't truly know if anything you're doing is effective or useful -- for you, personally -- until you try it out by practicing (eg. doing practice exam questions) in partnership with your edited materials. If your edits work, keep doing then. If not, don't. In my view, I can't see a lot of opportunities to do a better job than the the headings do in this regard - especially once you've read what's underneath them. If you understand the material under the heading, that may suffice. You may also find that simply highlighting a key phrase in the paragraph does an equal job without cluttering the page.
  13. To the 1Ls, on the occasion of their first exams

    Seconded - I've gotten my best grades on exams I left believing I had failed, because I either missed or completely misread questions. Meanwhile, my worst grades always come when I think I nailed it. Don't let your post-exam self-assessment spoil what should be a great and relaxing feeling having put one exam safely and permanently in your rear view mirror. You can't ever control how you performed compared to your colleagues, so the curve will do what it does and certainly one grade won't have any lasting effect on your career.
  14. Should I go?

    It may be a good idea to follow that line of thought - talk to the lawyers you know (and I'm sure there are more on this board who can help) about what their workweek/workday actually looks like. And ask them (diplomatically) if any, how it affects/strains their personal life. New calls will have more relevant info for you in this regard - because that's the market you're entering. And remember that you'll get a much different experience across the range of different practices out there.
  15. Should I go?

    Why? Why? The answers to both these questions, in my view, are crucial to your decision. I'm sure you have more insight. But in your words, you both "feel" you'll enjoy it and "worry" you won't enjoy it. Well, these are kind contradictory, and its going to be hard to provide advice without knowing why you might enjoy it and why you might not enjoy it, assuming they're different reasons. It sounds like there aren't any other real obstacles besides convincing yourself that practicing law is superior to whatever it is you're doing now - so superior in fact that the time/effort investment is worth it.