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thegoodlaw last won the day on January 18 2015

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  1. Do lawyers ever have really "grand" offices?

    Answer: I don't necessarily wear garish accessories or pocket squares. But I also cannot show up in anything other than a full business suit.
  2. Do lawyers ever have really "grand" offices?

    Depends on your client base, I suppose. There is no casual dress code in my office, and while I wear a suit everyday, when I meet clients I dress up quite a bit more (i.e. fancy cufflinks, pocket square, etc). I think they expect that.
  3. UBC vs. Queen's

    OP, I think Queen's is the better option for you. Full disclosure: I went to Queen's Law. Despite that, however, there were a lot of people from my class who ended up with jobs in Vancouver. Some were great students, but others were pretty average. And from what I've heard, they did not experience any insurmountable hurdles in securing those jobs. Of course, living in Vancouver is much more advantageous than living in Kingston, but the latter is not a fatal flaw by any means. The real advantage in Queen's is that your parents are buying you a house in Kingston. This is an excellent opportunity (although fair warning to your parents that a house in the most desirable student areas can be pretty pricey). They don't even have to sell it afterwards. Operating a rental property in Kingston can be pretty lucrative, and that house could be a steady source of income for you for years to come.
  4. Very Low Paid Articling Position

    I don't disagree with that. I was simply responding to the statement that net worth and self worth are not connected, or that making that connection is a bad idea. Even articling students add value to a firm and the pay should at least reflect that value - no matter how small it might be. Experience and opportunity are all well and good, but an articling principal and their firm are not performing charity by hiring a student. There is often an economic rationale behind it (whether it pans out that way is a different story). I feel like some try to explain away an unconscionably low salary by saying that it's the experience that counts or they're taking a risk by hiring.
  5. Very Low Paid Articling Position

    Disagree. Yes you're a person, but you're also a professional worth something in monetary terms. If my firm paid me well below my worth (which I would quantify as how much money I make the firm versus my take home income), I'd leave - regardless of how much they valued me as a person. Net worth matters and it should be attached to self worth.
  6. Do lawyers ever have really "grand" offices?

    I'm with you on both points. For some reason a certain financial company has also included bean bags with their open offices. It might make sense for Google, but for a boring financial company it is ridiculous. I sympathized with the individuals who were complaining about this to me.
  7. Very Low Paid Articling Position

    It would help if you told us the city you're in and the type of law your firm practices. If you're being paid around $40k for criminal work in Belleville (for example), that might be the going rate and your firm is not taking advantage of you at all.
  8. Multiple employment offers

    Set-date court does open your eyes to the Chernobyl-level disaster that is our court administration system. You do gain a lot of advocacy experience arguing with court staff about mundane things like filing or not losing an Information, which most people would think would be standard form, but is often a fantastic adventure.
  9. Desk suggestions?

    Yes. And put it in a tiny little corner with no sunlight. Plus points if it comes with handcuffs.
  10. As has been sometimes said: "Why can't we let parents choose schools by the quality of their teachers?" "But what about the bad teachers? It won't be fair on them". Reality is that when we get applications that are amazing on paper, we do try to rush and lock the person down for an interview, just in case their schedule fills up or they mark us out of their list of choices. It may turn out in their interview that they're incapable of human interaction or insist on a 9:00 to 4:30 schedule, which would strike them off immediately, so it doesn't guarantee success. You may feel that applications have to be assessed in some manner. Unfortunately, you're not at a stage where you are making that determination, and you cannot claim prejudice on the basis that the firm you applied to did not follow the procedure you would have liked them to follow. If every firm I applied to applied the procedure I wanted them to follow, I'd have been interviewing at every single firm. Finally, if you can't handle the "prejudice" of having your application assessed after someone else, and if that is the bar you're setting, you're going to be pretty disappointed with life. Life is full of "prejudices" and "injustices" much greater than what is going on here (which I am not conceding is prejudicial). Get over it.
  11. Do lawyers ever have really "grand" offices?

    A friend works in an office with no windows. As consolation, their firm put up a poster of a "window" with a tropical view. So thoughtful.
  12. Do lawyers ever have really "grand" offices?

    I only require a suitable place to store my scotch. All else is negotiable.
  13. 2L Summer job reference letter etiquette

    Usually you would just provide them with points that you would like addressed in the letter. You don't write it for them. For law jobs, you supply the firm with letters, so they would send it to you. I'm not sure if you get the right to edit them, but your letter writer may offer that option to you. I had my references write a letter non-specific to the firm, which I then circulated.
  14. Bay Street Bonuses

    The partners at my criminal law firm (Toronto) make more than $250k. The most senior partner cracks seven figures. But we do not do legal aid (or very little). I don't see how anyone could make $300k off of legal aid, notwithstanding that there is a cap of around $250k in Ontario and it pays so little that you would have to work day and night, weekdays and weekends with an insane caseload.
  15. Grades and being a Lawyer

    The judge is a teacher and mentor to many; law students and lawyers alike. And he has been doing this for many years, first as a private practitioner and then a judge. So I believed him.