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  1. Western / Université Laval JD/BCL

    Have you considered just calling Western and asking if they can put you in contact with someone who did the program?
  2. Ryerson Law by 2020 - Letter of Intent

    This was basically the entire mandate of the LPP. I'm not sure the Law Society can have this one both ways.
  3. Windsor vs. Osgoode: "Big Five" Firm Prospects

    Who would even take a job at one of the “Big Five”? I’d sooner starve to death than work anywhere but Morgans.
  4. Health Law Practice

    "Health law" is more of an area of focus than an area of practice. It can mean a number of things. For example, on one hand, it can mean you work in medical malpractice litigation, defending (or suing) doctors accused of professional negligence. On the other hand, it might mean you work as a policy analyst for a government ministry trying to lessen the health impacts of food deserts on marginalized populations. People doing these two types of work will have wildly different careers and day-to-day lives, yet both can be said to be doing "health law". My advice would be to decide the type of work you want to do first (ie do you want to be a litigator? would you rather die than be in a courtroom? etc) and then subsequently narrow down your area of focus (e.g. to family, criminal, "health law", etc).
  5. LLM Recommendations

    From what I can tell, there seem to be three "types" of people who get LLMs - 1) People who like thinking about the law more than they like practicing it. These people want to go into legal academia. They often go straight through to their LLM after their JD, then straight through again to their PhD, etc. If they are called to the bar, which many are not, they probably clerked at the SCC instead of doing traditional articling. These are the people who become tenure-track law professors. 2) People who are practicing lawyers, who want to gain additional expertise in some area and/or potentially work a side gig as an adjunct prof. These people are often experienced lawyers who have been called for a number of years and are looking to either push themselves even further in their line of work (ie a senior transactional lawyer who gets an LLM focussing on international taxation or trade & commerce) or to otherwise allow them to teach side courses at a law school on a more regular basis than a visiting practitioner / adjunct may be able to do. 3) People who are struggling to find articles at the end of 3L, who would rather do an LLM and try their hand at the articling recruit one more time than do the LPP. If you're seriously considering doing this LLM, take a minute and think about which of these three categories you'd likely fall into. If you think you would fall under Category #3, remember that you're only midway through 2L, and there are number of potential articling positions still open and available to you. I think it's also worth noting that having an LLM with no work experience behind it doesn't make you a whole lot more marketable for articling or junior lawyer positions than you otherwise would be.
  6. Question about Vacation during Articling

    I don't know, my October-November in civil litigation was crazy busy. I cannot imagine having taken a week off during that time. I also had no idea the fall would be like that until I started my articles, so if I was planning my articling vacation in spring term 3L, I may well have assumed November would be fine. I would have been incorrect.
  7. legal podcasts

    Robichaud's recently started an excellent podcast called "Of Counsel" that interviews exceptional litigators in Ontario. The description reads: "Of Counsel interviews remarkable lawyers about their careers in law. What motivates these lawyers? How do they manage to stay focused under intense pressure? How do they harmonize it all with their personal lives? How do they overcome fear and defeat? What insight and tips do they have for others?" I've really enjoyed all the episodes so far. More information can be found here: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/of-counsel/id1335199607?mt=2
  8. BARRISTER EXAM --- HELP

    I think the most useful tool I had at my disposal on the barrister exam was a "timeline" chart (ie. filing timelines, notice periods, days-between-dates, etc.) I also had the items on the timeline chart reference the relevant page of the materials.
  9. B CGPA wanting Western or Windsor

    Western has, in the past, been quite forgiving of a rough cGPA if the person has a good L2 (I'm talking 3.7+) and an excellent LSAT (I'm talking 165+). That's just been my experience, and I have no way of knowing if that's indicative of the larger whole. Also I've never understood this desire to have other users tell you their opinions on your admissions chances. Don't count on people on the internet to assure you that you're fine. Bust your butt, get your grades and LSAT as high as they can go, and see where the cards fall. That will be the best course of action 100% of the time.
  10. 2018 2L Recruitment

    2L job postings are still slowly trickling in. Don’t count your chickens just yet.
  11. Second thoughts on law school

    In my limited experience, it is very rare to see an undergrad student who actually understands what law school will be like. It is equally rare to see a law student who has any understanding of what practice will be like.* Don't let the fact that you aren't 100% sure if you'll like legal practice sway you now. Nobody in your shoes knows anything. Like others have said, if you want to get ahead of the curve (), go down to a courthouse and actually watch lawyers give submissions. *students with lawyer-parents notwithstanding
  12. What law school courses did you find helpful for the bar?

    The bar's not that hard. It's unpleasant, but it's not substantively difficult. E.g. You don't need to understand real estate law to pass the real estate section. IMHO, the best way to prep for the bar is to plan your time wisely, read the material to understand it, and leave time to do as many practice exams as you can.
  13. Is it important to apply to 1L recruit?

    Lol. As a current articling student who's spent every spare minute between all years of school working jobs, I feel like I can can confidently say that no amount of mental energy that you attempt to preserve by working only part-time instead of full-time after 1L is going to make one lick of a difference. Law school is significantly less work than work is. The sooner you figure this out, the happier you'll be. Also, FYI, however low your "tank" is on gas by the end of 2L summer, I guarantee you that you will have sufficient time to "fill up" in 3L.
  14. Is it important to apply to 1L recruit?

    I don't work in biglaw, and this seems to be the attitude prevalent among many of the lawyers where I work as well. Keep in mind, you're applying to a job where you will be expected to do grunt work and grind for long hours - no matter how much you'd learn from travelling, I think evidence of a work ethic, in a legal environment or otherwise, will probably be well-received.
  15. Ryerson Law by 2020 - Letter of Intent

    I understand what you're saying as well. But I really doubt it plays as big of a role as many people think. I would imagine that yes, if you or someone in your family knows someone high up on the food chain, or someone who is willing to place a call to the right person to pull for you, then absolutely that can play a role. But I'd be surprised if some associate who you bumped into by chance (by virtue of going to school in Toronto) is going to put his or her name and reputation (whatever that may be) on the line by backing you, a person they spoke to for an hour over coffee, as a summer student candidate. And like whereverjustice said above, I think a lot of lawyers would be more than happy to speak to you over the phone about their experience. It cuts less time from their billables that way anyway. Also, it should be noted that the vast majority of firm open houses happen in the summer after 1L, precisely because these firms know that many of their target candidates go to school outside the city and will be available in Toronto at that time. I'm sure there are one or two firms that have strong preferences for Osgoode and UofT students (in fact, I'm sure there are a few), but based on the Bay St hiring numbers at Queen's and Western, I think I can fairly assume those firms are in the minority.
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