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  1. Ontario Bar Exam Prep - June 2017

    That was an interesting experience. Fingers crossed I never have to do it again :/
  2. Canadian Constitutional Law - fourth edition Public Law - second edition 2015 Martin's Annual Criminal Code The Comprehensive Guide to Legal Research, Writing, and Analysis (1 and 2) Hovius on Family Law - Eighth Edition The Law School Book Message me for deets.
  3. Ask a 1L - 2017 Edition

    Honestly, let it come naturally. Don't force yourself to interact with any upper years! We can tell if you're only talking to us for our summaries if you get involved in ECs, like clubs, intensives, mock trial, etc, you will definitely make friends with upper years. They are an invaluable source of information but as purplehibiscus said, take their advice with a grain of salt. I had one upper year who implied that I was making the wrong decision with my life ... except we had very different visions of the "good life"
  4. Having never taken a prep course, it's difficult to say, but I'm guessing that it depends on the reason why you didn't do well on the LSAT. If it's because of your timing, a prep course may not help with that, especially if you already used the Bibles. That comes down to figuring out what's slowing you down and then repeating the same type of questions over and over again. In that case, you would have to tailor your study plan to your needs, which is something that a prep course won't do. But if you found it's because you didn't understand the Bibles or didn't like the teaching method, it could help you. Keep in mind that they do teach it as if you know nothing about the LSAT.
  5. Ask a 1L - 2017 Edition

    Wait, I always thought O-week was kinda mandatory? As in "you SHOULD REALLY go." In any case, I think if you don't go it'll be fine, and if you do go, it'll also be fine. I have a group of friends that didn't go to O-week and they formed a tight group just by interacting in class.
  6. Toronto Articling Recruit vs. Toronto 2L OCIs

    Yes, I would say that a number of great candidates were hired through OCIs, but that's not to say that there aren't still a large number of very competitive candidates left in the articling recruit. Like providence and fangle said, there's a huge variety of firms participating in the articling recruit that didn't do the summer recruit. There are people who hold out until the articling recruit because they are looking to do something specific e.g. family law. All to say, no matter what, give it your best shot. And make sure to tailor your application to whichever area of law the firm practices. I can't stress that enough. I'd say I have average grades, but my previous work experience and my interests helped me land a job.
  7. Ontario Bar Exam Prep - June 2017

    The only thing keeping me going at this point is fear >.<
  8. Ask a 1L - 2017 Edition

    I'll offer the flip side to this - get involved in whatever you're interested in. Don't do it because other people say it's good for your resume bla bla. I can think of two people who will be clerking this fall and they weren't involved in the "mainstream" activities. One of them is strongly interested in criminal law and the other one is crim law/social justice. They participated in a few clubs, mostly stuck with their own group of friends, but they did things that were important to them, like pro bono, research, publishing articles. I agree with FineCanadian about clinics though. THEY ARE GREAT AT OSGOODE (this is esp in comparison to UofT which puts more emphasis on Bay Street). I can't say enough good things about them. There's so much variety (e.g. human rights, disability, crim, employment, domestic violence, test case litigation, etc.) and you learn so many practical skills while doing them.
  9. BarPrepPal or Ontario Law Exam?

    I too would like to know! Although I've heard from some graduates that we don't even need to take those practice exams. Someone in the bar exam prep thread recommended Ontario Law Exam.
  10. I have a few textbooks from first year that are at least one or two editions out of date. I'm moving cities for articling and I don't want to bring them with me. Is there anywhere I can donate them? I highly doubt at this point anyone will want to buy them ... (but I could be wrong)
  11. Ontario Bar Exam Prep - June 2017

    Could people give feedback on how many times they read the materials before doing the bar? Realistically, I can only get through all of it once. If I have a bit of time leftover (e.g. a week or two) what do you suggest I review?
  12. Ask a 1L 2016 Edition

    1) "must takes" vs take whatever: People have a lot of opinions on this one. Some people don't think it's necessary to take courses that will prepare you for the bar. This is because the Law Society provides you with bar materials which contain everything you will need to know for the exam. But for people like me, I'd prefer not to learn tax through a textbook and take a class because I think I won't understand it otherwise. I've taken the typical "bar" courses for that reason, plus, I think it'd be great to know about family, tax, etc. before I graduate. It'll probably be the last time I get to learn about an area of law outside of my practice area. "Useful education": There are a few things you should consider. First, what are the law firms going to see when they look at your transcript. If you're set on family law, but you only took one family law course and the rest are all corporate, securities, business, etc, the firms will probably think you don't have a genuine interest in their area. Second, think about what you want to achieve from law school. Some people will take courses to prepare them for their future jobs. For example, if you want to be a litigator, you can take the commercial litigation seminar in upper year which will give you practical skills and teach you how to draft materials. I've also heard that you deal a lot in trusts in corporate law, so some people take trusts. On the other hand, you may be one of those people who wants the fullest academic experience possible, so you take some theoretical courses instead. It's totally up to you. My only recommendation is that when you choose your courses, you keep in mind what sort of career you want to pursue. Don't just take whatever you want for the hell of it. 2) I don't know anyone who has declared a major or stream. This may be because a lot of students don't want to pigeon hole themselves just in case they change their mind about what area of law they'd like to practice. 3) I'm guessing they wanted to build in some flexibility just in case you couldn't get into all the courses in one semester and you decided to make your second semester heavier to compensate. Keep in mind that you need to take 30 credits per year.
  13. Going into 3rd year, what should my goals be?

    Gonna piggyback on Ryn's post and add that I found law school a lot more challenging than undergrad. Think of doing well in undergrad as preparation for law school - if you can do well in undergrad, you won't have to work as hard in law school because you'll have already established good study habits.
  14. Reference letters

    What matters most is how well your reference knows you and how well they can speak of you in the letter. At a career development session I attended, a recruiter said that she doesn't put much weight in reference letters unless they are very favourably written because she knows that applicants would not include a negative reference letter. In other words, the position of your reference doesn't matter if they give you a bland reference letter. The key is to get someone who knows you well and can describe why you are a good candidate.
  15. Ask a 1L 2016 Edition

    I have a friend who uses WIND and it seems to work most of the time for him, although I've noticed that in some areas of the building which have more concrete, I'll have reception whereas he won't. Not a big deal, though.
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