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  1. Quitting 2L Offer

    Maybe I didn't study this whole thread scrupulously enough, I thought this other job offer came out of the blue some time after interviews had completed. Obviously I was not advising OP to lie to anyone.
  2. Quitting 2L Offer

    Forgive my hyperbole, it was not meant to offend you (or trivialize the plight of real "serfs"!). I'm not sure what part of my post suggested that students should have the freedom to walk away but law firms should not. I guess my position on this point is that the norm in most industries is not to have "ethical" rules that bind parties to each other, in addition to the applicable legal and contractual framework, and I'm not sure what this type of rule accomplishes in the legal sector. In my view, the problem with this specific requirement is that while the letter of the rule applies equally to law firms and students, students seem to feel the brunt of its deterrent effect/possible enforcement. I agree that it would not be nice for law firms to back out of articling offers, yet firms do do that (just ask a few of my classmates who saw their articling offers get retracted when the economy went to shit), notwithstanding law society rules. The firm that pulls that kind of move faces fewer potential consequences (will the shafted law student file a complaint and risk burning bridges? Probably not), than a student who would have to worry about the reputational impact (which I'm fine with) and the potential risk of having this held against them in their licensing (which I'm not OK with, as quitting a job has nothing to do with one's fitness to practice law).
  3. Quitting 2L Offer

    To give a bit of a different take on OP’s question, the safest approach here (for the reputational risk reasons others have emphasized) is to stick with firm A. That said, there may be a tactful way to bail on firm A and take the job with firm B. If you decide to do it you should be upfront with firm A, tell them that you were unexpectedly offered the job with firm B after already having accepted firm A. I would not mention the higher salary, but you could convey that firm B will offer you experience that is closer in line with your desired career and will likely offer you articles, while the job with firm A seems to be more of a temporary one-off summer position kind of deal. You could ask whether you walking away will prejudice firm A, or whether they interviewed other worthy candidates who could take your place. Firm A could react in a few different ways ranging from saying “no worries, we don’t care, appreciate the candor, good luck with firm B” to treating it as some kind of mortal insult. Only OP knows the personalities involved and the other particular circumstances that would inform where on that spectrum firm A’s reaction is more likely to land. As for that inane LSUC(K) rule that apparently makes summer students indentured serfs for the duration of their employment, I’m skeptical that this is really something that would compromise OP being licensed. Surely OP would not be the first lawyer in Ontario to have walked away from a summer job?
  4. NY Bar

    I can't recall exactly, I think it took at least a few months. I did have a few Canadian friends who missed the 6 month deadline by a month or two but BOLE was still able to certify their credentials with plenty of time to spare before the bar.
  5. It depends what you mean by "public sector," but I think if you are applying for say, Crown prosecutor positions, employers will expect to see certain courses on your transcript (i.e. crim pro), and if you haven't taken those courses they may justifiably question your interest in their line of work. If I was that kind of employer and I saw your transcript full of business law courses I would assume that you struck out on the corporate gigs and are turning to public sector jobs as a fall back option. Maybe a different story if you are thinking of public sector jobs that are more business law adjacent (like working at a securities commission or for the CRA or something like that).
  6. NY Bar

    I wrote the NY bar after the change to the UBE, after going to Canadian law school and articling in Canada. The general verdict is that the UBE (which tests on federal law) is easier than the NY law specific test was. That said, the UBE is still no cakewalk. Most people I know used either Barbri or themis, and there are number of other reputable prep courses whose names escape me, all of which seem to work fine. I used themis, which basically gives you notes, lectures, and a shit ton of practice questions and then gives you daily/weekly study targets to keep up with, and it was decent. I’m not really sure which area would need extra attention as a Canadian. The one big subject that’s totally alien is con law, but at the same time that subject felt easier, likely because it is a lot less dry than some of the other topics. I wouldn’t expect whatever legal knowledge you currently have to give you too much of a head start on the bar, since even in familiar subjects like torts and contracts the test covers a bunch of obscure crap that you are unlikely to have encountered before. You just have to put the work in, and if you are able to devote a month or two to full time studying you will be fine! If you want to get a sense of the materials, the NYBLE publishes the old tests online, and I think themis lets you watch their 1L course lectures for free (most of the content of which is on the bar). Best of luck and welcome to NYC!
  7. Barrister Exam Mistake

    Bless LSUC for ensuring that law school grads internalize how long CPD records must be maintained! They are truly doing the Lord's work.
  8. Some of this advice might be coming a little late, considering OP has probably graduated from one of these schools by now.
  9. Ottawa Summer Student Salary Numbers

    My comment wasn't meant as a knock on Ottawa. I've lived/worked in Ottawa and am well aware of its charms and that people actually want to be there! It was more of knock on Ottawa firms, hopefully the recent salary increases in Montreal and Toronto drag Ottawa salaries up!
  10. Ottawa Summer Student Salary Numbers

    I've heard the same from a few friends who articled at national firms in Ottawa and billed the 1800-2000 hours that you would in Toronto. Seems crazy that you could do the same job for the same firm for much higher pay in MTL (which has rent at least as cheap as Ottawa) two hours east or Toronto four hours west.
  11. Ottawa Summer Student Salary Numbers

    What is up with Ottawa? These salaries for private practice in a major Canadian city seem . . . not great.
  12. Elite Extracurriculars

    Any sport that has private clubs devoted to it that enforce dress codes is pretty elite. On the other hand, near my home there is a heavily used public outdoor concrete "squash" court, that doubles as a basketball court and drug transaction center, which is about as non-elite as it gets. So maybe squash is one of those sports that transcends the class divide.
  13. Elite Extracurriculars

    I totally agree with you, and with BlockedQuebecois's earlier statement, that if you want the competitive job you should strive to be as competitive an applicant as possible. My initial wading into this debate was to make the limited point that listing a hobby that one is merely casual about on a resume (whether soccer or whatever else) is not some mortal sin that is likely to disqualify an interviewee, as earlier posts on this thread suggested, though obviously that kind of fluff is not what you build your application around.
  14. Elite Extracurriculars

    I am happy to assist on your humble-brag. I've seen a fair amount of law student applications on the hiring side. Many come straight through from undergrad and their resumes are basically restricted to their studies/extra-curriculars/awards/summer jobs, and typically have an "interests" section at the back end with some fluffy stuff. If there's no righteous place for casual involvement in sports in a good CV, then how is one supposed to assure recruiters that one partakes in elite activities such as polo and squash, and that one therefore is a fellow member of the elite worthy of slaving away at an elite law firm?
  15. Elite Extracurriculars

    Listing soccer as an interest gives an employer a little colour about you, says that you enjoy the sport, even if you aren't a gifted athlete or a fanatic. If your resume is so full of other awesome achievements that you don't have room to list casual hobbies, then by all means focus on the noteworthy stuff. But for the average joe applicant who needs some fluff to fill the two pages and wants to show the employer that they aren't just a law studying automaton, nothing wrong with having that stuff in there. My point being, listing involvement in sports on a resume is pretty innocuous. I don't think most employers would hold it against you that you are genuinely involved in a sport, but aren't actually that great at it or aren't totally up to date on transfers in the Czech soccer league or whatever. I certainly wouldn't.
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