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  1. How did you not even mention this post when we were having coffee, LOL.
  2. Fyi this does not work. Telling people not to rely on your advice does not all of a sudden change it from "advice" to mere "information".* *This is not legal advice and shall not be construed as my legal opinion.
  3. Look, OP, you can plan things out all you want, but you won't ever really know what life is until you discover the magic of Stages. Though, I'd start at Ale and work your way up to it.
  4. I think that the LSUC should develop its own version of the LSAT and provide unlimited writing attempts and use the profits to fund the LPP, instead of making me fund the LPP.
  5. I agree with this. But I actually think it will take much less time than a decade. Ryerson is going to attract some of the best professors, because those professors would rather live and work and raise their family in Toronto, rather than, let's say, Windsor. Even with respect to Queen's and Western - if I had to go to law school again, I would go to one of these schools for the great student life and community. But... I definitely wouldn't commit my life to working or teaching in Kingston or London. Even when I went to Queen's, some of the profs commuted from Toronto. I also wouldn't be surprised if Ryerson just builds up an amazing base of practitioner lecturers from Bay Street firms who want to add teaching to their resume and fulfill their CPD that way. Ryerson is going to have great professors. Further to the above, Ryerson is going to have great networking connections on Bay Street because of its location. I, personally, wouldn't say no to any of their students who wanted to have a tour of my firm or go for coffee. And I would happily accept an invitation to go and participate in their events. Would I go to U of T and do the same? Of course. Would I go to York? No - I value my life and virginity - they can come to me. Because of the factors that I just discussed, I think that Ryerson is going to attract candidates who are competitive at some of the top schools, and might even compete for candidates with Queen's, Western, Osgoode and U of T if the tuition is lower. Many students will want to live at home in Toronto (real Toronto, not York) and minimize tuition payments. For them, Ryerson is going to be a good option. And, you know what? The fact that there's an actual rationale for exceptional candidates to choose Ryerson over other schools will greatly reduce the stigma attached to going there. I certainly won't hold it against a student when I'm involved in hiring. Windsor and Lakehead (sorry to bully them) are a different story [unless you really really really love either abandoned buildings or trees]. Consequently, I do not agree with what seems to be a widely held perception that Ryerson students would not be competitive during the traditional articling process. I don't see it starting in last place and I think it will very quickly become a solid middle of the pack school (within 5 years) and will likely become a first choice school for many (5-10 years).
  6. The practice of law, in its essence, is about protecting the bona fide purchaser for value (the "BFPV"). Their interests must be advanced above all else, which may even put your life at risk. This is because BFPVs are the embodiment of innocence and purity. While others may try to pilfer their chastity, it is the solemn responsibility of the bar to protect them. I am glad to hear that your personality, attitude and character are such that you may contribute to our noble cause. We have been forever searching for an INFJ who is semi-optimistic and willing to betray others in order to serve the BFPV. We welcome you to our clan.
  7. This makes me angrier than anything else. I hate it.
  8. I ran over my law application with a car and the application still wasn't crippled.
  9. I'm not going to say that this is impossible. But for sure not. We aren't seeing the talent pool being depleted with students flocking to NYC. So there's just no rationale. But seriously, has anyone heard about increases? I would love that. But I haven't heard anything, and I have it on decent authority that NR is not raising as OP speculated (and started all of this off with, lol). And WHY would any of the firms implement raises? There's an abundance of great legal talent in Toronto and coming out of Canada's law schools who would probably take a lot less than is currently offered for the opportunity to work on Bae Street.
  10. I'm not going to say that this is impossible. But for sure not.
  11. Wtf. Why am I not working at Slavies. I buy everything on amazon and on the bay website anyway. I demand a raise.
  12. A relative scarcity of articling positions (i.e. there not being enough for everyone), should not restrict admission into the profession. The bar exam tests general competency in that passing it means that you can look up law and apply it to questions asked of you. The bar exam is sufficient to at least demonstrate that those who pass can perform some legal analysis, and we can't really ask much more from a test. But the bar is just the last step before articling, following many other accomplishments and demonstrations of intellect, skill and ability. Some have already disagreed that we should be patting ourselves on the back for exceeding in high school and then undergrad, and in many cases law school. But, let's be honest, that does demonstrate a certain level of capability and competence in solving complex tasks and succeeding where most others failed. A certain level of competence that does not all of a sudden disappear when one is not chosen in a totally subjective application and interview process primarily based on "fit". Some students who don't find articles would have surely been hindered by poor grades, but let's never forget that a lot of this comes down to "fit". Now, articling is incredibly valuable and I don't think it should ever be abolished, but I equally do not think that lawyer licensing candidates should be restricted by its unavailability to some of them, because while articling may be a test of competence, I reject the notion that securing articles is equally a test of competence. It is a test of charm and wit and connections and grades and whatever else makes up the "fit" element. Some firms hire men primarily over 6ft and nearly all of the physically attractive women in my class ended up on Bay Street (an impressive coincidence if not causative). It could be argued that law school and the bar exam test legal knowledge and ability, whereas securing articles tests the business aspect. The way that you present yourself. And sure, the business aspect is truly crucial to finding financial success in law, but not necessarily to being a competent lawyer. So, let's not restrict potentially competent people from entering the profession. Post-call, well, they should at least be given the chance to fail at making a living providing legal services. And who knows, maybe it actually will result in better service for historically underserved populations.
  13. Comparing Windsor and Ottawa on terms of prestige is somewhat like comparing McDonald's and Wendy's on a standard of fine dining. Neither will substantially add to your resume. In fact, I regard Windsor as the better school if you're looking at Toronto. Though, I have observed the Ottawa mooting program to be quite excellent and maybe even worth going there over other schools.
  14. Hello, barelylegal. I find you uniquely qualified to answer my question. Given that your username is the same as my favourite category of porn. Who do you think should pay for a first date, the guy or girl? What about subsequent dates? Does that depend on whether the other person is also a lawyer, and what sort of income they are likely to make? (Cashier vs teller vs small firm vs mid size vs large?). For context, I am a male lawyer at a relatively large firm. I eat peanut butter for many of my meals as it is cheaper than real food.
  15. I think that where this is going to most vary is based on (1) how busy is the drafter; (2) are they better compensated if they deal with matters more quickly [controversial, but I'm looking in the direction of some personal injury practitioners]; and (3) can the client afford a lot of time being spent on the file. Clients of big law firms can often afford to pay for a lawyer to review a document more than once. The files are large and the funds are there to pay for multiple proofreads. For many soles, I suspect the file value is so small that any extra sort of review is cost prohibitive.