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  1. I don't think Queen's was ever a cgpa school.
  2. Probably dumb question

    No hugs during hiring. Once working there it's fine.
  3. Applying to union-side labour law firms

    And if not Western, then krumb hopes you get hit by a bus.
  4. disclaimer, private email

    Yes, giving your non-legal "opinion" on something will make you seem smart. But, it is selfish in that it provides nearly no value to the other person. They are looking for advice, which you cannot provide. Just be honest and tell them that you can't help. If you refer them to someone who can actually help them then you're using your training much more wisely and in a way that is actually beneficial to the other person.
  5. ROI - How rewarding is law

    This post went downhill so quickly. Polite deference rapidly transformed into yell typing. I think that law is monetarily rewarding on average but if you're near the bottom, it ends up being a horrible investment.
  6. Hired but snooping around

    Please present your zoological/botanological qualifications and I will concede my point.
  7. Hired but snooping around

    This is ok. It's not food for the earth, but raccoons and squirrels probably quite enjoy it!
  8. These things are just so obviously wrong... smh... There aren't tons of new calls making more than those on Bay. Very few members of my class got in-house jobs straight out of law school. Some of them I know personally and they do not make as much as us on Bay. The market is pushing wages down and lawyers out of jobs. Demand for legal services isn't increasing with the influx of lawyers due to increased enrolment in law school and the LPP bringing more foreign grads into the market. Grades are incredibly important. They can't guarantee you a job, but they sure as hell can guarantee your resume doesn't get looked at. Whether you like it or not, grades are seen as an objective indication of ability
  9. Value of Clerking at a Lower Court?

    The easiest way is just to get hired back into your firm's litigation group.
  10. Grade feedback - Bay street

    What School do you go to? I think you probably won't get any OCIs with those grades, tbh. But if you write really good cover letters you have a small chance.
  11. Legal Aid Cuts

    This thread really highlights one of the unfortunate reasons why I never considered criminal law - Money motivation. I don't think I would have chosen it over my current practice area, but it would have otherwise been a close third or fourth. And based on what's been said here, I wouldn't be surprised if I consistently bill at over double the rate of established criminal counsel, as a first year associate... And even within my firm, billing rates vary greatly by lawyer and practice group. This is why it always shocks me when the general public talks about how much "lawyers" earn.
  12. Legal Aid Cuts

    Trick question. The liberals would never do anything intelligent. If it isn't corrupt, wasteful or borderline communist, it ain't happening. And before we start calling LAO borderline communist (since it's arguably somewhat redistributive) remember that these are individuals who have been accused to have violated state laws.
  13. Ontario offers after July 4

    How is it uncool? And, why would the Ontario school be unhappy?
  14. Switching practice fields from boutique

    OP, I'm going to assume you mean full service business law and not a firm that offers, for example, a mix of crim, family, wills and estates I know many people who tried to make the jump from labour to business law (inclusive of litigation) after articling. These were generally students who participated in OCIs and were disappointed to only be hired by a boutique and not a full service firm. They were unsuccessful because the full service firms hire back their own students. That's not to say that opportunities don't exist - just that they are difficult to capture. Best to stick around the firm for a few years as an associate because you're not going to be all that marketable to biglaw after just articling. Clerkship is the next best thing. Some national firms accept applications from clerks every year as a rule, and I'm sure others wouldn't shy away, but the odds are still massively against you since you're competing with other clerks (not to mention other articling students) over very few positions, so it would be a massive risk if you might otherwise have an associate job in hand. I feel a bit for those who missed out on full service firms at OCIs and still try to claw their way in after, but part of me really just also doesn't feel for them at all. Pick up the fragments of your shattered dream and use them to decorate your new world. Give your current firm a chance and you might like it. It's only been a few weeks.
  15. How did you not even mention this post when we were having coffee, LOL.