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  1. Please present your zoological/botanological qualifications and I will concede my point.
  2. This is ok. It's not food for the earth, but raccoons and squirrels probably quite enjoy it!
  3. These things are just so obviously wrong... smh... There aren't tons of new calls making more than those on Bay. Very few members of my class got in-house jobs straight out of law school. Some of them I know personally and they do not make as much as us on Bay. The market is pushing wages down and lawyers out of jobs. Demand for legal services isn't increasing with the influx of lawyers due to increased enrolment in law school and the LPP bringing more foreign grads into the market. Grades are incredibly important. They can't guarantee you a job, but they sure as hell can guarantee your resume doesn't get looked at. Whether you like it or not, grades are seen as an objective indication of ability
  4. The easiest way is just to get hired back into your firm's litigation group.
  5. What School do you go to? I think you probably won't get any OCIs with those grades, tbh. But if you write really good cover letters you have a small chance.
  6. This thread really highlights one of the unfortunate reasons why I never considered criminal law - Money motivation. I don't think I would have chosen it over my current practice area, but it would have otherwise been a close third or fourth. And based on what's been said here, I wouldn't be surprised if I consistently bill at over double the rate of established criminal counsel, as a first year associate... And even within my firm, billing rates vary greatly by lawyer and practice group. This is why it always shocks me when the general public talks about how much "lawyers" earn.
  7. Trick question. The liberals would never do anything intelligent. If it isn't corrupt, wasteful or borderline communist, it ain't happening. And before we start calling LAO borderline communist (since it's arguably somewhat redistributive) remember that these are individuals who have been accused to have violated state laws.
  8. How is it uncool? And, why would the Ontario school be unhappy?
  9. OP, I'm going to assume you mean full service business law and not a firm that offers, for example, a mix of crim, family, wills and estates I know many people who tried to make the jump from labour to business law (inclusive of litigation) after articling. These were generally students who participated in OCIs and were disappointed to only be hired by a boutique and not a full service firm. They were unsuccessful because the full service firms hire back their own students. That's not to say that opportunities don't exist - just that they are difficult to capture. Best to stick around the firm for a few years as an associate because you're not going to be all that marketable to biglaw after just articling. Clerkship is the next best thing. Some national firms accept applications from clerks every year as a rule, and I'm sure others wouldn't shy away, but the odds are still massively against you since you're competing with other clerks (not to mention other articling students) over very few positions, so it would be a massive risk if you might otherwise have an associate job in hand. I feel a bit for those who missed out on full service firms at OCIs and still try to claw their way in after, but part of me really just also doesn't feel for them at all. Pick up the fragments of your shattered dream and use them to decorate your new world. Give your current firm a chance and you might like it. It's only been a few weeks.
  10. How did you not even mention this post when we were having coffee, LOL.
  11. Fyi this does not work. Telling people not to rely on your advice does not all of a sudden change it from "advice" to mere "information".* *This is not legal advice and shall not be construed as my legal opinion.
  12. Look, OP, you can plan things out all you want, but you won't ever really know what life is until you discover the magic of Stages. Though, I'd start at Ale and work your way up to it.
  13. I think that the LSUC should develop its own version of the LSAT and provide unlimited writing attempts and use the profits to fund the LPP, instead of making me fund the LPP.
  14. I agree with this. But I actually think it will take much less time than a decade. Ryerson is going to attract some of the best professors, because those professors would rather live and work and raise their family in Toronto, rather than, let's say, Windsor. Even with respect to Queen's and Western - if I had to go to law school again, I would go to one of these schools for the great student life and community. But... I definitely wouldn't commit my life to working or teaching in Kingston or London. Even when I went to Queen's, some of the profs commuted from Toronto. I also wouldn't be surprised if Ryerson just builds up an amazing base of practitioner lecturers from Bay Street firms who want to add teaching to their resume and fulfill their CPD that way. Ryerson is going to have great professors. Further to the above, Ryerson is going to have great networking connections on Bay Street because of its location. I, personally, wouldn't say no to any of their students who wanted to have a tour of my firm or go for coffee. And I would happily accept an invitation to go and participate in their events. Would I go to U of T and do the same? Of course. Would I go to York? No - I value my life and virginity - they can come to me. Because of the factors that I just discussed, I think that Ryerson is going to attract candidates who are competitive at some of the top schools, and might even compete for candidates with Queen's, Western, Osgoode and U of T if the tuition is lower. Many students will want to live at home in Toronto (real Toronto, not York) and minimize tuition payments. For them, Ryerson is going to be a good option. And, you know what? The fact that there's an actual rationale for exceptional candidates to choose Ryerson over other schools will greatly reduce the stigma attached to going there. I certainly won't hold it against a student when I'm involved in hiring. Windsor and Lakehead (sorry to bully them) are a different story [unless you really really really love either abandoned buildings or trees]. Consequently, I do not agree with what seems to be a widely held perception that Ryerson students would not be competitive during the traditional articling process. I don't see it starting in last place and I think it will very quickly become a solid middle of the pack school (within 5 years) and will likely become a first choice school for many (5-10 years).
  15. The practice of law, in its essence, is about protecting the bona fide purchaser for value (the "BFPV"). Their interests must be advanced above all else, which may even put your life at risk. This is because BFPVs are the embodiment of innocence and purity. While others may try to pilfer their chastity, it is the solemn responsibility of the bar to protect them. I am glad to hear that your personality, attitude and character are such that you may contribute to our noble cause. We have been forever searching for an INFJ who is semi-optimistic and willing to betray others in order to serve the BFPV. We welcome you to our clan.