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  1. UK Law School Graduates

    (Especially those not technically adults yet. Which makes me wonder where the marketing is taking place - it had better not be high school sanctioned.) OP I agree with all the above. If you want to be a lawyer in Canada, learn the law of Canada in Canada. The UK’s system is different from ours after a century of jurisprudence and legislation and The Charter.
  2. Law Firm Volunteer

    Don’t put too much pressure on yourself. Even if you did get like a mailroom position it would be unlikely to give you powerful contacts. It won’t hurt, it might help, but it is nowhere near an essential step.
  3. Multiple employment offers

    OP, For context I have been practising criminal law for over a decade, and I agree with providence's take on this. You got great experience as a student articling in criminal defence, doing exactly what most students who article in criminal defence do. It sets you in the path to being a competent litigator. I will simply add my voice to the chorus of “be careful not to oversell it”. Compared to some other articled students your experience may be superior, sure: but it’s not exceptional. When I read your posts here, having never met you, my reaction was the same as providence’s, herself an experienced defence lawyer. But congratulations on having an offer already. Fwiw I think you want to be wary of leveraging offers against each other. The market is flooded with new Calls looking for work. I recently hired some one, and in the course of interviewing applicants for the position at least one person tried touting their numerous offers. Since this made it clear to me that they weren’t really interested in the job but just in the pay check, I cut them loose. Whatever you decide, I hope the next experience is as valuable as the first!
  4. Perhaps I should add a third qualification: self awareness. However the “sociopath” exception will be by her nature an exception: not something you can really excise. I rest moderately happy in the hope that the vast majority of us are not, in fact, sociopaths, and will at least attempt to remain somewhat honest with ourselves.
  5. My take on the necessary characteristics for lawyers boils down to two things: drive and integrity. When you are a lawyer you seldom have anyone looking over your shoulder. This is the context for both requirements. You need to have the drive to show up, learn, prepare, preform. Self motivated people do well whether they’re drafting a mountain of paperwork or tearing apart their opponent’s case. (If you procrastinate but *still do the work* given the deadlines, welcome to the club.) The practise of law is a staggering responsibility. We are given tremendous amounts of trust: we handle money, property, children, liberty, reputation, business, homes, and sometimes literally life and death. If you don’t have a clear personal code of honour, just walk away now. There are Rules Of Professional Conduct and common law principles that govern the profession. You need to take these seriously. We serve, we don’t rule.
  6. Do lawyers ever have really "grand" offices?

    I like my office. It’s big and has some seating and a large window. When I moved in here I took the trouble and expense to get matching shelves/desk a couple cuts above Staples. I also bothered to frame and hang some art from home. It’s welcoming and comfortable. Lots of my colleagues have offices in gastown/railtown so brick walls and wood beams are common in Vancouver. When I started out a dozen plus years ago I shared office space with a senior lawyer in a cubby so small you couldn’t roll your chair back more than two feet before hitting the broken filing cabinet behind you, and you often had to step over “Ed” or his stuff in the building doorway because it was one of the few sheltered spaces in the downtown East Side that was back from the street so the cops would seldom “move him along”.
  7. There is also... just as a friendly heads up... a possibility that a person from that office also browses this site. We have more than a few Crown on here.
  8. Unbelievable like you are happy or like you are mad? You can always turn it down.
  9. Grades and being a Lawyer

    For whatever it may be worth, I like mentoring people, and that’s why I am here. My ability to take on that role at work as I become a senior lawyer has led directly to a lessening of my posting here. Back in 2011, when I signed up, I was most useful to law students. Now I am more useful to junior lawyers. My grades were fine. Lots of Bs, a handful of B+, a couple As. Some clinical work and a moot. Got one articling offer and took it just before 3L started. If any of that matters - as far as my career goes now, it doesn’t.
  10. You guys, this thread was last posted in 18 months ago. Are you reviving it for a reason other than to express disagreement with or contempt for various posters, some of whom haven’t posted here in a year or more? No one would see it except you have bumped it, and introduced a whole new audience to the thing you disagree with just to say you disagree with it. If you want to discuss this topic generally, maybe start another thread with fresh info or insight.
  11. Stuff to Bring to Law School

    Get photos developed and put a couple into frames. Your parents, your dog, your friends. Makes it feel more like home. Buy a suit that fits (SEE A TAILOR WHEN / AFTER YOUR PURCHASE) and makes you feel badass. Get a crisp white collar shirt, a money clip, possibly sunglasses if it’s bright out, and head to a nearby “fancy” bar - order an old fashioned or a martini or a Perrier with lime, and notice how you are treated there. It’s different from your neighbourhood jeans and tshirt sports bar. Carry that feeling with you. (But don’t let it go to your head). Get a comfortable shoulder bag that fits your laptop. Make sure you have an all-weather kind of jacket and sturdy shoes that have some some level of water resistance. I know - I sound old. But when you can’t get into your mom’s front closet to shuffle through all the shit you have accumulated throughout the years, you get caught short.
  12. Well, whether it’s standalaone courses or beefing up the components of existing courses, we need more of it than we had when I was in school. The number of criminal lawyers on either side of the table who have never read Ipeelee is disgraceful. The utter lack of awareness regarding how a First Nations person might view the entire court process due to the court’s history in relation to indigenous peoples is similarly awful. We could all use a lot more education in that quarter. I imagine other areas of Law suffer from the same ignorance and I am glad it’s getting addressed.
  13. The work teaches you how to do it. Read, yes; watch, yes; but when you can - do. Have some one check your work and take all precautions, but do.
  14. Grades and being a Lawyer

    Well, let’s not get into a battle of anecdotes. The takeaway really is that as a general proposition your grades don’t matter very early in to your career. The habits you have formed and the skills you have honed do. Those things are likely to be reflected in your grades, that’s all.
  15. Grades and being a Lawyer

    Nope, it’s always gone A > B > C. Until U of T messed with it. I got transcripts with Hs on it (from job applicants) and was momentarily disoriented; thought I was either losing my vision or the subject of a joke and then remembered.